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Relayer is similar to discoverability service

Naming Chain?

  • Peer discovery looking for RPC endpoints?

Ease of use

Relayer that allows querying many chains at once

  • Very doable
  • Blocker is finding RPC endpoints that is reliable for each of those chains
  • The logical service that is running all of these
    • Gets expensive quickly but with funding could set up for a year or two

Centralized version of name chain

  • Github registry
    • Example:
  • Code owners / roles for repos
  • Bot that easily updates the information
    • RPC that queries against all that it knows as well as pulling net info for
  • RPC crawler from bez

Name Chain

  • Some sort of oracle like properties for RPC endpoings
  • Continually update headers for these chains
  • DNS chain
  • Disambiguating human readable chains
  • Token Curated Registries

Data Provider

  • Data hub
  • Infura
  • For cosmos
    • What’s an easy way to pay for data provider access
    • This service exists

Uniswap’s token list

In Cosmos we need chain-ids

  • Not token lists


  • People will create different solutions
  • Whichever works will get critical mass
  • Chains start from starport network, DNS for chain ids
  • A chain is identified by an ID
  • Better not to make a standard that everyone will follow
  • Is it a goal of starport to become a chain naming service?
    • For the chains launching form starport network yes
    • It would naturally align itself to be the go to chain id name service
    • Register upgrades and genesis files here

Github idea again

  • It was a failure because it was more important for wallets to worry about asset ids rather than chain ids
  • The need may be back though
  • Need to access node IP address
  • When tey started, they realized what was most important was asset ID
  • P2P identifiers versys RPC identifiers
    • Slightly susceptible to DDOS so most people don’t make them public
  • Roots of trust for stake sync
  • Genesis files
  • Chain ids
  • ICF most trustworthy host
  • Cosmos most views

Seed Nodes as a service

  • What exists for ethereum or btc
  • Hard coded in the clients

Github list

  • What’s the risk?
  • What’s the vulnerability?
  • We don’t want infura because we can’t unseat it
    • Centralized points of failure because people start leaning on them
  • 6 month project with a 2 person team?
  • Chain starter / DID module
  • No one needs to run the nodes, just a service that queries the RPC for peers, genesis file and roots of trust for the light client and regularly updates the repo (via CI)
    • Requires at least one open RPC endpoint
  • Each chain project that exists should want to list their chain on this service
  • If we make the burden of running minimalist, otherwise as a validator i’m happy to run a daemon on one of my sentry nodes and provide the info for the networks i validate on


  • Validators could keep running this, why not include it in the relayer itself?
  • Relayer that connects to intermediary chains, lists all endpoints available for that chain, each validator of that network is already connected to that relayer
  • When the relayer bootstraps it requires a bootstrap root of trust for the light client
  • Relayer is pulling it from naked RPC endpoint


  • Native support on keplr, need this info on the repo and they will support it natively

Provider list

  • How to authenticate the provider
  • How to rank the provider?
  • RPC endpoints is a DDOS threat
    • They’re secured through anonymity
    • Initial goal maybe isn’t the RPC, build to that
    • Initially, peers, genesis and light client roots of trust allow anyone to build a new node trustworthy
    • Would allow bringing new nodes online very quickly

Data will change

  • Should we use a chain-id as the identifier?
  • Yes
  • Then you don’t need to worry about who is the “true” chain
  • Wallets want to know who is the “true” chain

This is just a building block

  • A relayer that can use this repo can provide other future services regarding the asset denominations and IBC